FDRC Expansion Survey Final Report

François Dupuis Recreation Centre
Expansion Survey Results and Analysis
September 18th, 2014
Methodology
The François Dupuis Recreation Centre expansion survey was designed using a highly-rated online
survey tool by the PSCDA and based on information collected at meetings with the councillor`s office
and recreation centre staff. Because of the potential size and complexity of the overall development, the
PSCDA chose to run a comprehensive survey for this initial community interface, including 29 questions
divided into 10 categories. Simple yes or no questions were mandatory while more complex ranking
questions were optional. The ranking questions also provided for write-in options and comments were
requested at the end of each category.
The survey ran for a period of 4.5 weeks from August 14th to September 15th and was advertised
extensively using local media, the PSCDA`s mailing list (500), social media and through face-to-face
contact at the FDRC over three days and PSCDA`s community barbeque (1000). The survey was also
distributed directly to other neighbouring community association executives for their input and
distribution.
The survey collected 120 responses, which would represent roughly three percent of the PSCDA’s
catchment of households. While no data on age was tracked and location was not analysed in this
report, the largest group of responses came from face-to-face approaches directly to users of the
facility. Both adults and seniors responded but, although they were encouraged to, it is not clear
whether youth responded.
For more complex ranking questions, the data was refined using a commonly accepted Fibonacci
weighting system allocating points in a descending order from first to last choices. Where logical, writein answers were grouped together to combine points or designated under the proper survey items.
Write-in items that were not among the survey choices were also examined with higher weightings by
allocating double, triple and then quadruple points, therefore allowing us to consider what the score
might have been without a natural disadvantage. Finally, items with points statistically close were
grouped into general ranking levels by colour.
Summary Analysis
Respondents were overwhelmingly in favour of the expansion plans with most comments centering on
developing more into the first phase of expansion. The results show support for the first phase and
possibly on a larger scale than outlined in the survey.
There was strong support for a full-sized gymnasium concept. Based on respondents’ selections, a
design solution should be considered with a very high ceiling to allow for significant climbing walls and
competitive trampoline with a balcony area integrated with running tracks and either spectator seating
in the balcony or telescopic bleachers below.
Just over half of respondents favoured a change room area adjacent to the gymnasium while forty
percent preferred some form of kitchen. An adjacent change room would be preferred however the
capacity to add a kitchen facility in future expansions should be retained.
There is strong support for a new multipurpose room, especially for yoga. Looking at this result in
combination with the support for a yoga studio in a future expansion, suggests that designing the
multipurpose room as a yoga studio in this first phase of development would be received favourably.
While respondents were not asked specifically if they agreed or disagreed with the lack of a childcare
facility, it is notable that half of respondents said they would use child-minding services if these were
offered. The results suggest that child-minding services, especially concurrent sports activities or other
constructive arts or educational classes would be well-received and well-used.
While there is good support for maintaining the status quo on food and beverage services, this question
did received a fair number of negative responses. Further, there were very positive rankings for
augmenting food and beverage service in future expansions. The FDRC could maintain the status quo
but the addition of a small coffee & juice bar within a current underutilized space would also be
welcome.
The results seem to suggest that elaborate exterior recreation facilities are not necessary for the first
phase of development. Children could use some climbing and agility structures while adults and seniors
would prefer the simple enjoyment of nature with trails and places to congregate.
There is strong support for increased parking, with many written comments that the lot is already at
capacity, particularly at peak times.
A great diversity of desires was expressed among the future expansion possibilities. Firstly: a
library/cultural centre and an outdoor pool; secondly: climbing walls, indoor running tracks and squash
courts; and thirdly: a yoga studio, extra cardio gallery, tennis courts, wading pool and youth centre.
While extensive, some of these items could be developed in phase one of the expansion. A climbing wall
and indoor running tracks could potentially be accomplished with a creative gymnasium design and a
yoga studio concept could be embedded into the design of the multi-purpose room. Other items could
be developed in concert, such as an outdoor swimming pool and wading pool and a library/cultural
centre and youth lounge.
An additional cost/benefit analysis could be done on the data since many of the choices in play would
not add significantly to the cost. Items such as gardens or a batting cage would not be very costly and so
should be considered even if they were not among the top choices.
A final note should be made that despite discouraging and not listing an ice arena among the options,
respondents expressed a desire for one throughout the survey. Weighting this value higher could put an
ice arena nearly into the top ranking. Residents may therefore view negatively a long-term development
plan that does not include an arena. If one is not able to be developed at any point, further outreach
should be made to explain the rationale.
Survey Results
Gymnasium Expansion / Aggrandisement, gymnase
Analysis
There is strong support for a full-sized gymnasium concept. The top programming choice was indoor
soccer; second place choices were dance classes & Indoor hockey; the third highest choices were
basketball, community clubs and community events for teens; fourth places choices were volleyball and
trampoline; in fifth place were gymnastics and badminton; and sixth place choices were wheelchair
basketball and martial arts.
It is worth noting that gymnastics and tumbling were separate categories. Since their combined points
would put this activity in first place, it is very likely that this sport would have been favoured closer to
the top as a combined activity. This is reinforced by its second place showing in terms of equipment
desires below.
Looking at the additional gymnasium capacities, running tracks and climbing walls were top choices. A
balcony area and gymnastics equipment fell into second place. Trampoline and baseball nets were a
third choice. Telescopic bleachers and digital score boards were the fourth choice. And golf nets and
video screens a fifth choice.
These choices seem to suggest a design solution with a very high ceiling to allow for climbing and
trampoline along with a balcony area incorporated with running tracks and either spectator seating in
the balcony or telescopic bleachers below. It is interesting to note that this design might satisfy the longterm aspirations identified in question 29 where respondents ranked indoor running tracks and climbing
walls as second among all the future choices available.
While not statistically significant in the question, one of the top comments was the desire for an ice
arena which is a theme that repeats throughout the survey.
Question 1
The FDRC is proposing the creation of a modern, full-sized gymnasium which would allow for full court
basketball or two volleyball or badminton courts, larger classes and other sports to take place. Do you
agree with this plan? Le CRFD propose la création d'un gymnase moderne de taille réglementaire qui
permettrait d’inclure un terrain de basket-ball ou deux de volley-ball ou de badminton, l’accès à de plus
grande classe et la venue d’autres sports. Êtes-vous d'accord avec cette proposition ?
Question 2
Please rank the following programming in order of priority: 1 being the highest. Veuillez s’il vous plaît
classer la programmation suivante par ordre de priorité: 1 étant le plus important.
Total Points
1
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5
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7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
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33
34
35
36
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38
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41
42
43
Indoor soccer / soccer intérieur
Danse classes / classe de danse
Indoor hockey / hockey intérieur
Basketball / basket-ball
Community clubs (Girl Guides, Scouts …) / club communautaire tel
les Guides, les Scouts, etc.
Community dances, movies etc. for teens / danse
communautaire, cinéma, etc. pour les adolescents
Volley Ball / volley-ball
Trampoline / trampoline
Gymnastics / gymnastiques
Badminton / badminton
Wheelchair basketball / basket-ball en fauteuil roulant
Martial arts / arts martiaux
Tumbling / tumbling
Fencing / escrime
Line dancing / danse en ligne
Baseball pitching facility / Winter Baseball/Clinics
Indoor tennis
An ice rink / skating courses
Yoga / Hot yoga
Community Events/ Dinners / Gathering Place
Conservation area
Family sports
Park
Pilates
Squash
bigger weight room
library
none of the above
not needed
Room specifically designed/ equiped for baby/toddler/preschool
classes (like "Gymboree Play & Music") - needs to be clean,
colorful and safe
Special Olympics
Steam room
Visual Arts
Outdoor movies for families (not drive-in)
Cooking Classes
Futsal
Music lessons for young kids
Curling
Dodge Ball
Hot yoga
Wall /rock climbing
archery
spinning
Double Points Triple Points Quadruple Points
206.95
183.38
182.90
174.97
170.41
170.38
157.44
153.95
140.90
133.25
121.91
118.69
104.73
78.50
66.73
12.54
12.54
8.36
8.36
4.18
4.18
4.18
4.18
4.18
4.18
4.18
4.18
4.18
4.18
25.09
25.09
16.72
16.72
8.36
8.36
8.36
8.36
8.36
8.36
8.36
8.36
8.36
8.36
37.63
37.63
25.09
25.09
12.54
12.54
12.54
12.54
12.54
12.54
12.54
12.54
12.54
12.54
50.17
50.17
33.45
33.45
16.72
16.72
16.72
16.72
16.72
16.72
16.72
16.72
16.72
16.72
2.58
2.58
2.58
2.58
0.14
0.09
0.01
0.01
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
5.17
5.17
5.17
5.17
0.29
0.18
0.01
0.01
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
7.75
7.75
7.75
7.75
0.43
0.27
0.02
0.02
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
10.34
10.34
10.34
10.34
0.58
0.36
0.02
0.02
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
Question 3
Please rank the following additional capacities in order of priority: 1 being the highest. Veuillez s’il vous
plaît classer les capacités supplémentaires suivantes par ordre de priorité, 1 étant le plus important.
Points
1 Running tracks / piste de course / Indoor running/walking track
2 Climbing walls / murs d’escalade / Rope Climb
Balcony area for exercise equipment or spectator seating / zone pour
3 l'équipement sportif ou des sièges pour les spectateurs / zone de plaisance
4 Gymnastic equipment / équipement de gymnastique / Tumbling Mats
5 Trampoline / trampoline
6 Baseball nets / filets de baseball / Removable Batting Cage
7 Telescopic bleachers / gradin télescopique
8 Digital score boards / tableaux de bord numériques
9 Golf nets / filets de golf
10 Video screen / affichage vidéo / cable video screens
11 Indoor rink
12 Outdoor all/season circuit training equipment
13 Outdoor rink and skating puddle
14 Similar as the Athletic Club but for less money!
15 Yoga studio
16 tennis court
17 large play structure with water splash pads
18 outdoor pool with change rooms
19 Indoor soccer dome sports field
20 Large outdoor Gazebo with washroom facility
21 Dividing Wall /Partition
22 Equipment Storage
23 sauna
24 squash court
Double Points
Triple Points
Quadruple Points
229.11
224.70
171.45
164.70
155.72
143.29
130.42
128.51
113.73
108.77
8.36
4.18
4.18
4.18
4.18
4.18
2.58
2.58
1.60
1.60
0.06
0.00
0.00
0.00
16.72
8.36
8.36
8.36
8.36
8.36
5.17
5.17
3.19
3.19
0.11
0.00
0.00
0.00
25.09
12.54
12.54
12.54
12.54
12.54
7.75
7.75
4.79
4.79
0.17
0.00
0.00
0.00
33.45
16.72
16.72
16.72
16.72
16.72
10.34
10.34
6.39
6.39
0.22
0.00
0.00
0.00
Question 4
Do you have any specific suggestions or additional comments on the proposed gym? Avez-vous des
suggestions spécifiques ou des commentaires supplémentaires sur le gymnase proposé ?
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Add an arena!!!!!
Another rink is needed in this end of the city that is affordable
Ice rink
Arena pads!! And then more arena pads!!
Indoor ice surface x2
Don't need new gym when schools have gyms that stay unused after school hours and summer
not needed
Easy to clean
Please ensure that operational funding is adequate to keep it clean. There are many gymnastics facilities in the area
(Tumblers, Starr, etc). It may not be necessary to have gymnastics facilities at FDRC.
Don't try to replicate what is already available commercially - Orleans has plenty of gymnastics/martial arts/dance classes,
please try to expand that into things not available - i.e. fencing
Ensure the ceiling height would allow to have provincial/national level trampoline competitions.
Improved aerobics room with mirror. The rectangle shape of the current space is very awkward
Increase age appropriate fitness/gym/flex/stretch for 60+ age group
Make it affordable
Table tennis and pool tables
Would be great to have adult classes ongoing at the same time as kids classes
Another pool
Have a little theater as part of the Gym similar to the ones at schools
Spinning classes
Squash & racquetball courts
Tennis court
Time slots for free play
Spend money on equipment. Forget technology such as scoreboards that would cost a lot of money when volunteers could keep stats.
Seating for parents while their children play a sport or participate to an activity would be wonderful. We now have to sit on the floor
around local gyms for many activities.
Gymnasium, Adjacent Areas / Gymnase, zones attenantes
Analysis
Just over half of respondents favoured a change room area adjacent to the gymnasium with lockers
being the number one choice for features. Despite the somewhat negative wording of the question
against a full-sized kitchen, a fifth of respondents still favoured it. Combined with the twenty percent
who chose a basic kitchen, we can see that forty percent would like to see some form of kitchen,
especially to be used for cooking classes. Additional uses, such as for community events, fundraising and
birthday parties were also identified.
The results seem to suggest a design with an adjacent change room would be favoured over one with a
kitchen however the capacity to add kitchen facility in future expansions should be considered in the
design of the gymnasium.
Question 5
The FDRC is proposing the creation of a two change rooms with bathrooms adjacent to the gymnasium
for convenience. This space could however be used instead for a kitchen to facilitate cooking classes and
events at the centre. Keeping in mind that a full-sized kitchen will tie up more of the proposed budget,
which is a bigger priority in your view? Le CRFD propose la création de deux vestiaires avec salle de bains
attenante au gymnase pour plus de confort. Cependant, cet espace pourrait être utilisé pour une cuisine
pour faciliter la tenue de classes de cuisson et des événements culinaires. En tenant compte qu'une
cuisine d’une grande dimension coûtera plus cher, quelle est la plus grande priorité à votre avis: Cochez
un choix ?
Change Rooms / vestiaire
56%
A basic kitchen with a stove and small preparation area /
Cuisine comprenant un poële et un petit comptoir
20%
A full-sized professional kitchen / cuisine professionnelle complète 20%
other / autres
4%
A Family change room is a necessity
J'aime l'idée de classes de cuisson et d'évènements culinaires
Steam room
none of the above
not needed
Question 6
If a kitchen is chosen, what would you think it could be used for in order of priority, 1 being the highest?
Si une cuisine est choisie, comment l’utiliseriez-vous? S'il vous plaît classer les exemples suivantes par
ordre de priorité, 1 étant le plus important.
Total Points
1
2
3
4
5
Cooking classes (or others requiring a kitchen) / cours de cuisine /
cheap healthy meals
Community Suppers / soupers communautaires / community
events such as BBQs, picnics or communiy fair / Volunteer events
/ Fund raising events / special events
Meals on wheels / popotes roulantes
Catering for leased private functions / service traiteur pour des
réceptions privées / when renting the facility for a party heating
up some of the food / birthday parties
not needed
Double Points Triple Points Quadruple Points
304.87
236.90
194.77
187.80
4.18
8.36
12.54
Question 7
If change rooms are chosen, which of the following should be included in order of priority, 1 being the
highest? Si des vestiaires sont choisis, lequel des énoncés suivants devraient être inclus. Classer par
ordre de priorité, 1 étant le plus important.
Lockers / casiers
Showers / douches
Benches / bancs
Family change room / Strollers & diaper changes
Hot tub
Sauna
Steam room
Toilets
Trenches for easy clean
natural light
non-slip floors
not needed
wheelchair access
access for current weight room
hair dryers
Total Points Double Points Triple Points Quadruple Points
352.48
310.47
280.13
12.54
25.09
37.63
50.17
4.18
8.36
12.54
16.72
4.18
8.36
12.54
16.72
4.18
8.36
12.54
16.72
4.18
8.36
12.54
16.72
4.18
8.36
12.54
16.72
4.18
8.36
12.54
16.72
4.18
8.36
12.54
16.72
4.18
8.36
12.54
16.72
4.18
8.36
12.54
16.72
2.58
5.17
7.75
10.34
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
Question 8
Do you have any specific suggestions or additional comments on the proposed kitchen or changing
area? Avez-vous des suggestions spécifiques ou des commentaires supplémentaires sur la proposition
d’une cuisine ou des vestiaires ?
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A kitchen would be a nightmare to maintain properly. Change rooms are essential.
Cooking classes for adults and kids would be nice, but are available at the Canadian Superstore
Not needed. Use facilities already available
The current change rooms are quite spacious and very nice.
The change rooms that already exist are super big and nice I don’t think there is a need for another one unless you're
planning to have a bigger gym far from the change rooms
I think a kitchen is a great idea
Having a fridge is very useful when planning activities for little kids
Ensure that a family change room is included
Family change rooms
Hot tub
Sauna
Steam room in each change area
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Don't let the pool users into the change room since they get the floor all wet and it is not good for shoes going into the gym
16.72
Multi-Purpose Room / Salle polyvalente
Analysis
There is strong support for a new multipurpose room, especially for yoga, secondarily for spinning and
dance and thirdly for strength training and aerobics. The fourth highest score was for Zumba and martial
arts and step aerobics were in fifth place.
While not statistically significant, the comments focussing on seniors needs and the desire for different
programming seem to suggest that a range of less strenuous classes would be received well.
This result, in combination with the support for a yoga studio in Question 24, suggests that designing the
new multipurpose room as a yoga studio in this first phase of development would be received
favourably.
Question 9
The FDRC currently has two multi-purpose rooms, the Portobello room which has a wooden sprung floor
and the Avalon room overlooking the pool which is often used for meetings. The centre would like to
see the creation of an additional large-sized multi-purpose room with a sprung floor of 158 square
metres built in order to accommodate more classes. Do you agree with this plan? Le CRFD a
actuellement deux salles polyvalentes, la salle Portobello qui a un plancher flottant laminé et la salle
Avalon donnant sur la piscine qui est souvent utilisée pour des réunions. Le centre aimerait voir la
création d'une salle polyvalente supplémentaire de grande taille avec un plancher de danse à ressort de
158 mètres carrés construits afin d'accueillir plus de classes. Êtes-vous d'accord avec ce plan ?
Question 10
What type of programming would you like to see in a new multipurpose room in order of priority, 1
being the highest? Quel type de programmation souhaitez-vous voir dans une nouvelle salle
polyvalente? Veuillez s'il vous plaît classer les choix suivants par ordre de priorité, 1 étant le plus
important.
1
2
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5
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10
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Yoga / yoga
Spinning / spinning
Dance / danse
Strength training / conditionnement physique
Aerobics / aérobie
Zumba / zumba
Martial arts / arts martiaux
Step aerobics / séances de step
Drama / théatre
Chair yoga / yoga en fauteuil
Kettle bell / Kettle bell
Pilates
Aerobics, Yoga, Strength training & weight lifting for seniors
Family yoga
Crossfit
Mommy and child classes
Something not already available elsewhere.
belly dance
cards, bridge etc
kickboxing
mind games
not needed Use existing facilities
Art Studio
drums alive
Work shop class for kids
Gymnastics
Shuffleboard
Archery
Meditation
golf simulator
indoor running track
Total Points Double Points Triple Points Quadruple Points
249.34
204.98
203.38
185.16
182.13
176.14
144.38
135.36
121.29
114.06
104.18
8.36
16.72
25.09
33.45
6.77
13.53
20.30
27.06
5.78
11.56
17.33
23.11
4.18
8.36
12.54
16.72
4.18
8.36
12.54
16.72
4.18
8.36
12.54
16.72
4.18
8.36
12.54
16.72
4.18
8.36
12.54
16.72
4.18
8.36
12.54
16.72
4.18
8.36
12.54
16.72
4.18
8.36
12.54
16.72
2.58
5.17
7.75
10.34
2.58
5.17
7.75
10.34
0.99
1.97
2.96
3.95
0.06
0.11
0.17
0.22
0.03
0.07
0.10
0.14
0.02
0.04
0.06
0.08
0.01
0.02
0.02
0.03
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
Question 11
Do you have any specific suggestions or additional comments on a new multipurpose room? Avez-vous
des suggestions spécifiques ou des commentaires supplémentaires sur la proposition d’une salle
polyvalente ?
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Not needed. Use existing facilities
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Not required. People can go the Athletic Club or Goodlife for this. Could however be used for sport classes for disabled children.
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This is an opportunity to bring NEW activities to Eastern Orleans. Why not look beyond what is already available?
Seniors' Meeting Room
The dovercourt has a GOLD program aimed at seniors you should look at having something similar for seniors in
Orleans....we have nothing
Encourage social clubs (bridge etc,) mind games etc for 60+ age group. Need more prevention for mental health, agility and
retention
Sounds great!
Maybe a stage for bands or plays
Not to have equipment in it so it can be used for parties, classes, meetings ect
Squash, racquetball
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 Having a pull out wall would allow the room to be separated into two or more smaller rooms. This could make less popular
programs more feasible as smaller classes could be operated concurrently
Childcare / Garderie
Analysis
While respondents were not asked specifically if they agreed or disagreed with the lack of a childcare
facility, it is notable that half of respondents said they would use child-minding services if these were
offered. Sports were favoured as an activity, with arts and games as a second choice. A number of writein options centered on educational activities and some made the comment that they would like
concurrent classes.
The results suggest that child-minding services, especially concurrent sports activities or other
constructive arts or educational classes would be well-received and well-used.
Question 12
There are no current plans for a childcare facility in the expansion however the FDRC could offer some
child-minding or concurrent classes for children accompanying adults using the facility. Would you make
use of child-minding services if they are offered? Actuellement, on ne propose pas d’établir une
garderie, mais le CRFD pourrait offrir une certaine forme de garderie et des classes parallèles pour servir
les jeunes qui accompagnent les adultes utilisant le Centre. Utiliseriez-vous les services de garderie s’ils
étaient offerts ?
Question 13
If offered, what type of programming would you like to see in a child minding service ranked in order of
priority, 1 being the highest. Si ce genre de programmation était offert, que souhaitez-vous voir dans un
service de garderie?
1
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5
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15
16
Sports / sports
Arts / arts / crafts
Games / jeux
Wii Fit / Wii Fit
Library / Reading
Movie nights
team work, no TVs or computers
use existing services
Music
Foam pit with balls
Computer Programming
Educational / Homework Help
Nature Walk
Science
none of the above
themed summer camps
Total Points Double Points Triple Points Quadruple Points
305.36
284.60
279.05
129.95
12.54
25.09
37.63
50.17
4.18
8.36
12.54
16.72
4.18
8.36
12.54
16.72
4.18
8.36
12.54
16.72
3.19
6.39
9.58
12.78
1.60
3.19
4.79
6.39
0.99
1.97
2.96
3.95
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
Question 14
Do you have any specific suggestions or additional comments on child-minding at the FDRC? Avez-vous
des suggestions spécifiques ou des commentaires supplémentaires sur le service de garderie au CRFD ?
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Concurrent adult and child classes is a good idea.
Just running concurrent classes would be great.
Anything that would encourage my child's fitness while parents attend gym / classes would be so welcome!!
Would be useful for younger siblings of children participating in sports / classes
Great idea!
Affordable
Please drop-in child-minding on an hourly rate with a lower rate for multiple children
Make it a mini-Fun Haven
Summer camps - en français, avec natation et autres sports
Team work, no TVs or computers
Not necessary Use existing services
Programs for childcare givers to come during the long winters
Food & Beverage Services / Services de nourriture et de breuvage
Analysis
While there is good support for maintaining the status quo on food and beverage services, this question
did received a fair number of negative responses. Those that would prefer additional food or beverage
services said they would give up space in the multipurpose room, the current meeting rooms or the
lobby.
The results seem to suggest the FDRC could maintain the status quo but the integration of a small
service within the current underutilized space would also be welcome, probably satisfying a greater
number of people. Looking further down the survey to question 28 dealing with the future expansion, a
coffee & juice bar would be the most welcome option.
Question 15
There are no current plans for a canteen or café however the FDRC does provide vending machines and
a lounge area. Do you agree with this aspect of the expansion? Actuellement, aucun plan n’a été
présenté pour une cantine ou un café, mais le CRFD dispose de distributeurs automatiques et un salon.
Êtes-vous en accord avec cet aspect de l'aggrandissement ?
Question 16
If you answered no, what space trade-off would you make in order to accommodate a café or canteen?
Si vous avez répondu non, quel compromis en espace voulez-vous faire pour accueillir un café ou une
cantine ?
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Smaller multi purpose room
Fitness Room
Smaller area for community room
Community networking
Part of the space of the Portobello room for a café
multipurpose room or kitchen
A small cafe could be incorporated into the lobby area.
Wasted space at front entrance (no one uses the tables there)
Less lounge area
Smaller offices/ entryway
Don't know what is available
Incorporate in plan
Not sure but coffee is good idea w/wifi
Smaller kitchen or using the kitchen itself to offer healthy staff
Kitchen
Machine distributrice
Strength-training rooms
Balcony area
Parking
Question 17
Do you have any specific suggestions or additional comments on the food and beverage services
proposed? Avez-vous des suggestions spécifiques ou des commentaires supplémentaires sur les services
proposés de nourriture et de breuvage ?
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A healthy option cafe would be great
A place that big needs better and healthier/fresher options than vending machines
Healthy and nutritious and not expensive
le moins de sucre possible
Service offering healthy food and beverages
Some healthy options
Healthier choices in vending machines
Waste of money. Keep expansion simple with a multi-use court
Not necessary
Stay away from food services because they are a drain on resources and end up offering unhealthy choics.
Food and beverage services could be another source of revenue.
Many parents are waiting for kids in classes, this is a lost opportunity. A cafe would make the facility more pleasant and
enjoyable.
Maybe link the professional kitchen with a. canteen
Hire a food truck for any big events
Tim Horton's or Canadian-owned café
More vending machines
Make sure there is a choice of what is available and let people make their own decisions on food and beverage. Do not
force only a certain lifestyle.
Exterior Recreation / Loisirs extérieur
Analysis
Respondents favoured climbing and agility structures for children with some interest in swinging, riding
and spinning structures. Walking and picnic areas were the top choices for adults. The results seem to
suggest that elaborate exterior recreation facilities are not necessary. Children could use some climbing
and agility structures while adults and seniors would prefer the simple enjoyment of nature with trails
and places to congregate, possibly a lawn-bowling court.
Question 18
The FDRC expansion could include some small exterior recreation areas for children. Keeping in mind
that exterior structures such splash pads are many times more costly while gardens and climbing
structures free more budget for other aspects of the expansion, please rank the following activities in
order of priority, 1 being the highest. L'aggrandissement du CRFD pourrait inclure quelques petites
zones de loisirs extérieurs pour les enfants. En tenant compte du fait que les structures extérieures
telles des aires de jeux d'eau sont beaucoup plus coûteuses alors que les jardins et les structures
d'escalade libèrent plus de budget pour d'autres aspects d’aggrandissement, classer les activités
suivantes par ordre de priorité, 1 étant le plus important.
1 Climbing & agility structures / structures d’escalade et d’agilité
Swinging, riding or spinning structures / balançoire, structures à
2 grimper et pivoter
Open play field / terrain de jeux à ciel ouvert / open fields for
3 kids / Turf
4 Pretend play structures / simulation et jeux de rôles
Not required; sufficient parks nearby / pas nécessaire;
suffisament de parcs à proximité / Use other parks and other
5 facilities
6 Splash pad, water features / aires de jets d'eau
7 Sand pit / terrain de sable
Outdoor Skating Rink / perhaps with the plastic 'ice' (like Toronto
8 parks)
Picnic tables for parents/kids to eat lunch. Benches for people to
9 read / Clean gathering place
10 Bike paths
outdoor pool to compliment the indoor pool. there is no outdoor
11 pools in orleans
12 putting green
13 Small outdoor theatre for puppet shows, etc.
14 Giant-sized games like snakes and ladders, chess, etc.
15 gardens
16 outdoor basketball
17 outdoor soccer
18 outdoor tennis
Total Points Double Points Triple Points Quadruple Points
312.59
226.99
204.78
173.40
132.98
130.92
119.83
8.36
16.72
25.09
33.45
8.36
4.18
16.72
8.36
25.09
12.54
33.45
16.72
4.18
4.18
0.23
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0.00
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8.36
8.36
0.47
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12.54
12.54
0.70
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0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
16.72
16.72
0.93
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0.00
0.00
0.00
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Question 19
The FDRC expansion could include some small exterior recreation areas for adults. Please rank the
following activities in order of priority, 1 being the highest. L'aggrandissement du CRFD pourrait inclure
quelques petites zones de loisirs extérieurs pour les adultes. Veuillez s'il vous plait classer les activités
suivantes par ordre de priorité, 1 étant le plus important.
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Walking areas / sentiers pour marche
Picnic areas / zones de pique-nique
Relaxation & reading / zone de lecture et détente
Bocce ball, Lawn bowling / Bocce, bowling sur gazon, pétancle
Not required; sufficient facilities nearby / pas nécessaire;
suffisament de parcs à proximité
Tai Chi / Tai Chi
Bird or butterfly watching / observer les oiseaux ou papillons
Horseshoes or ring toss / jeux de fer à cheval ou anneaux
Gardening / jardinage
Boccia / Boccia
Exercise structures / chin-up ars etc. / fixed circuit training
equipement
Outdoor Skating Rink / perhaps with the plastic 'ice' (like Toronto
parks)
not necessay suffient parks in the area, Use other existing
facilities
Bike paths / bike paths for kids
Chess/checkers tables and seats
agility climbing structures
Total Points Double Points Triple Points Quadruple Points
219.50
209.11
143.40
117.52
104.31
92.58
75.30
71.21
60.63
48.49
8.36
16.72
25.09
33.45
8.36
16.72
25.09
33.45
8.36
5.78
4.18
2.58
16.72
11.56
8.36
5.17
25.09
17.33
12.54
7.75
33.45
23.11
16.72
10.34
Parking / le stationnement
Analysis
Respondents showed strong support for increased parking, with many written comments that the lot is
already at capacity particularly at peak times. There was also an expression to have more bicycle racks.
Question 20
The FDRC has proposed to expand parking. Do you agree with this aspect of the expansion? Le CRFD
propose d'élargir le terrain de stationnement. Êtes-vous d'accord avec cet aspect de l'aggrandissement ?
Question 21
Do you have any suggestions or comments on the parking expansion? Avez-vous des suggestions ou des
commentaires spécifiques sur l’aggrandissement du stationnement proposé ?
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It's a must
It’s already full all the time
Necessary because of the growing community
Need a lot more parking!
With expansion comes volume and more parking needed
Ensure adequate parking because I will not be taking the bus. Ensure adequate bicycle parking, too!
Additional parking is needed regardless of expansion. This is in lieu of the addition of other transport options.
Much needed, very full during peak times (scrim lessons on weekends)
Design to facilitate circulation at peak times
Make it big! There isn't enough space during popular classes for children
Bike racks too.
More bike racks are also needed.
Increased bicycle parking
Make sure there are good biking paths leading into the facility and enough bike racks.
Garden space or community garden space
The current parking is well designed.
Increase width of parking spots
There is not enough parking for those with little children
Drive through spots
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Charging station for electric cars
Overall Expansion / Aggrandissement global
Analysis
Respondents were overwhelmingly in favour of the overall expansion plans. Most comments centered
on developing more into the first phase of expansion. The results show residents support of the first
phase of expansion and possibly on a larger scale than outlined in the survey.
Question 22
The overall expansion is for 11-1200 square meters of space at a cost of roughly $7 million. Do you agree
with the overall expansion plan l’aggrandissement global est de 1100 à 1200 mètres carrés d’espace
estimé à un coût d'environ 7 millions de dollars. Êtes-vous d'accord avec le plan de développement
global ?
Question 23
Do you have any overall suggestions or comments on the plans being proposed? Avez-vous des
suggestions ou des commentaires sur l'ensemble des plans proposés ?
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Do it all at once
Do more. ice rinks, squash & racquetball courts. Go bigger and better
I wish the expansion were more substantial
So much money for so little space, why on earth is it so expensive
Add some arena pads!
Outdoor hockey rink
They need to include ice pads!
Need more pool space
I would improve the swimming coordination. It`s very hard to put 2 kids of different ages in different swimming classes at
the same time. This needs to be improved.
A spa in the pool area
Prefer library over gym
une bibliothèque juxtaposée
Enough money spent on new facilities. Why not use the facilities that exist like school gyms etc.
Include Facilities for Seniors
Agree only if the city can afford it. No tax increase.
Is there room for beach volleyball courts?
Keep it simple. Don't waste money on scoreboards and wi-fit games.
Where are the squash courts? There are no squash courts East of BMRC!
More birthday party options for kids
The young people somewhere to go and have fun
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Please do not add another dog park. dog owners do not pick up after their dogs and you can't have dogs running around
off leash in the same area as children due to safety and sanitary reasons. dog parks should not be on soccer fields
Before building fields keep in mind the millennium expansion . try and complement sporting offerings.
It would be great to have access to indoor or outdoor cycling facilities, with tracks for children and adults for road bikes or
bmx for example.
More baseball/softball fields, batting cages, and soccer fields as well as a Tim Horton's close by! Perhaps a man-made hill
for tobogganing in the winter and a look-out in the summer.
Commuter facilities for those who bike to work - proper locking area, etc. to work out and continue the bike to work.
Keep as many of the trees as possible along the Bypass to provide a barrier as well as retaining the natural beauty
Please consider space for adults. Not everyone has kids so we need adult centered activities. Also kids get all the prime
time.
One of the main issues we have is school aftercare run by the city of Ottawa. Recently the Avalon public school contracted
the YMCA for the aftercare and asked the city of Ottawa to vacate the premises. It will be great if there is a way for the
city to have a place to accommodate after care programs because the Aquaview center is really small
First comment; we need ice pads included in the expansion. Second; parking for cars AND bikes is woefully inadequate.
Third: Avoid unnecessary expenses; i.e. no intrusive public art like the large installation that blocks views of the pool. Last
comment; this community is growing & will grow for years to come - please build the complex to serve that total
population rather than subjecting the facility to continuous construction.
Future Expansion / Aggrandissement future
Analysis
A great diversity of desires was expressed among the future expansion possibilities.
Looking at the activities, respondents expressed a strong interest in a yoga studio and secondarily indoor
running tracks. Climbing walls and squash courts were the third place choices, with an additional cardio
gallery in fourth place.
The outdoor sports facility most favoured was a swimming pool, followed by recreation trails in second
place and outdoor running tracks and an adventure course in third place. Tennis courts and a wading
pool were fourth in the ranking. A baseball diamond and open air sports stadium ranked fifth.
A library/ cultural centre was the top choice among indoor facilities with a youth centre or lounge in
second place.
The desire for an open-air theatre dominated the outdoor leisure facilities selections followed by
community gardens and a dog park but much further down in points.
Of the possible services, a coffee and juice bar far outranked the second choice of food and beverage
franchises.
The results of question 29 show the essence of what respondents are looking for in a future expansion.
Firstly a library/cultural centre and an outdoor pool. Secondly climbing walls, indoor running tracks and
squash courts. And thirdly, a yoga studio, extra cardio gallery, tennis courts, wading pool and youth
centre.
While this is a very extensive list of desires, some of these items could be developed in phase one of the
expansion. A climbing wall and indoor running tracks could potentially be accomplished with a creative
gymnasium design and a yoga studio concept could be embedded in the design for the multi-purpose
room. Other items could be developed in concert, such as an outdoor swimming pool and wading pool
and a library/cultural centre and youth lounge. Finally, there are many items such as gardens or a
batting cage that would cost relatively little and should therefore be considered regardless of ranking.
A final note should be made on the expressed desire for an ice area throughout the survey and in
particular in question 29. Despite the discouragement against an ice arena and not including it within
any list of options, it is notable that many nonetheless mentioned it. We should therefore consider a
higher weighted value for this write-in answer. A quadruple value would put an ice arena nearly into the
top ranking. The results suggest that residents may view negatively an overall development plan that
does not include an ice arena. If one is never able to be developed, further consultations to explain the
rationale would be important.
Question 24
The FDRC may go through additional expansions in future years. If further expansion is approved, what
indoor sports would you like to see developed. Please rank the following possible activities and
structures in order of priority, 1 being the highest. Le CRFD pourrait passer par une troisième phase
d’agrandissement dans les années à venir. Si cette troisième phase est approuvée, que voudriez-vous
voir accomplit? Veuillez s’il vous plaît classer les activités sportives à l’intérieure suivantes par ordre de
priorité, 1 étant le plus important.
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Yoga studio / studio de yoga
Indoor running tracks / pistes de course intérieure
Climbing walls, bouldering gym / murs d'escalade, rocher
Racquetball, squash courts / terrain de racquetball, squash
Additional cardio gallery / galerie cardio supplémentaire
Curling rink / curling
Additional weight room / salle de musculation supplémentaire
Golf simulators / simulateurs de golf
Pilates studio / studio de pilates
Ice arena / skating / Patinoire intérieure / Ice pads
Tennis
Batting Cages
Solar power
Squash Courts
floor hockey
library!
not necessary
something like ray friel water area for children inside the pool
area
spa in pool area
outdoor running track
Community Garden
Table Tennis
Billiard/Pool Tables
archery
Total Points Double Points Triple Points Quadruple Points
200.83
191.68
181.85
181.79
167.15
138.73
138.33
127.67
119.02
31.85
63.70
95.55
127.40
12.54
25.09
37.63
50.17
4.18
8.36
12.54
16.72
4.18
8.36
12.54
16.72
4.18
8.36
12.54
16.72
4.18
8.36
12.54
16.72
4.18
8.36
12.54
16.72
4.18
8.36
12.54
16.72
4.18
4.18
2.58
1.60
0.61
0.38
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8.36
8.36
5.17
3.19
1.22
0.75
0.00
12.54
12.54
7.75
4.79
1.83
1.13
0.00
16.72
16.72
10.34
6.39
2.44
1.51
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Question 25
Please rank the following possible outdoor sports in order of priority, 1 being the highest. Veuillez s’il
vous plaît classer les activités sportives en plein air suivantes par ordre de priorité, 1 étant le plus
important.
1 Outdoor swimming pool / piscine extérieure
Recreation or fitness trails / sentiers loisirs ou de remise en
2 forme
3 Outdoor running tracks / pistes de course extérieure
4 Adventure course / parcours aventure
5 Tennis courts / terrain de tennis
6 Wading pool / pataugeoire
7 Baseball diamond / terrain de baseball
8 Open air sports stadium / stade de sports en plein air
9 Skateboard park / parc de patins en ligne
10 BMX park / parc BMX
11 Soccer Field
12 Beach volleyball / outdoor volleyball for the summer
13 Batting Cages
14 Ice / hockey arena
15 not necessary
16 telescope pad
17 Basketball courts
Total Points Double Points Triple Points Quadruple Points
221.29
191.14
182.01
173.10
164.39
160.98
122.47
115.84
101.59
86.82
6.77
4.33
4.18
4.18
4.18
4.18
1.60
13.53
8.65
8.36
8.36
8.36
8.36
3.19
20.30
12.98
12.54
12.54
12.54
12.54
4.79
27.06
17.30
16.72
16.72
16.72
16.72
6.39
Question 26
Please rank the following possible indoor leisure activities or structures in order of priority, 1 being the
highest. Veuillez s’il vous plaît classer les activités de loisirs à l’intérieur suivantes par ordre de priorité, 1
étant le plus important.
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26. Please rank the following possible indoor leisure activities or
structures in order of priority, 1 being the highest. Veuillez s’il
vous plaît classer les activités de loisirs à l’intérieur suivantes par
ordre de priorité, 1 étant le plus important.
Library, cultural centre / centre culturel, Bibliothèque
Youth centre, lounge / salon pour les adolescents
Hot tub / bain à remous
Theatre/Big Screen TV for special events (ie Olympics)
tennis court
meditation rooms
LAN Parties
Pool tables
lounges with coffee machines and microwaves for small groups
for a low or no fee
meeting room
Total Points Double Points Triple Points Quadruple Points
291.83
252.37
195.00
4.18
8.36
12.54
16.72
4.18
8.36
12.54
16.72
1.60
3.19
4.79
6.39
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0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
Question 27
Please rank the following possible outdoor leisure activities and structures in order of priority, 1 being
the highest. Veuillez s’il vous plaît classer les activités de loisirs en plein air suivantes par ordre de
priorité, 1 étant le plus important.
1 Open-air theatre / théâtre en plein air
Community, ornamental gardens / jardins communautaires,
2 ornementaux
3 Dog park / parc pour chien
4 tennis court
A nice pool - that costs money - that is warmed would be great.
We often go to the Spa Nordik in Chelsea just to get access to
5 their new infinity pool and nothing else
6 outdoor pool and large gazebo
7 rink
8 soccer field
9 benches and tables
10 shaded areas
270.28
211.10
182.64
5.17
10.34
15.50
20.67
4.18
4.18
0.61
0.61
0.00
0.00
8.36
8.36
1.22
1.22
0.00
0.00
12.54
12.54
1.83
1.83
0.00
0.00
16.72
16.72
2.44
2.44
0.00
0.00
Question 28
Please rank the following possible services in order of priority, 1 being the highest. Veuillez s’il vous plaît
classer les services suivants par ordre de priorité, 1 étant le plus important.
1 Coffee & juice bar / Café et bar à jus / Smoothie bar
Food and beverage franchises / franchises alimentation et
2 boissons / Booster Juice / Tim Horton's
3 Babysitting
4 After School Programmes
5 Fitness Counselling
Total Points Double Points Triple Points Quadruple Points
314.42
257.19
4.18
2.58
1.60
8.36
5.17
3.19
12.54
7.75
4.79
16.72
10.34
6.39
Question 29
Of all future expansion possibilities please choose the top five items that are most important to you in
order of priority, 1 being the highest. De toutes les possibilités futures d'agrandissement, veuillez s'il
vous plaît choisir les cinq activités qui sont les plus importantes pour vous ?
1 Library, Cultural Centre / centre culturel, bibliothèque
2 Outdoor swimming pool / piscine extérieure
3 Climbing walls, bouldering gym / murs d'escalade, rocher
4 Indoor running tracks / pistes de course intérieure
5 Racquetball, squash courts / terrain de Racquetball, squash
6 Yoga studio / studio de yoga
7 Additional cardio gallery / galerie cardio supplémentaire
8 Tennis courts / terrain de tennis
9 Wading pool / pataugeoire
10 Youth centre, lounge / salon pour les adolescents
11 Golf simulators / simulateurs de golf
12 Curling rink / curling
Recreation or fitness trails / sentiers loisirs ou de remise en
13 forme
14 Baseball diamond / terrain de base-ball
15 Open-air theatre / théâtre en plein air
16 Hot tub / bain à remous
17 Additional weight room / salle de musculation
18 Adventure course / parcours aventure
19 Dog park / parc pour chien
20 Coffee & juice bar / Café et bar à jus
21 Outdoor running tracks / pistes de course extérieure
22 Skateboard park / parc de patins en ligne
23 Open-air sports stadium / stade de sports en plein air
24 Ice arena
25 BMX park / parc BMX
26 Sauna / sauna
Community, ornamental gardens / jardins communautaires,
27 ornementaux
28 Pilates studio/ studio de Pilates
Food and beverage franchises / franchises alimentation et
29 boissons
31 Seniors centre
32 Spinning
33 not necessary Use existing facilities
34 Baseball Batting Cages
35 Outdoor Hockey / Skating rink
36 Soccer Field
37 Beach volleyball courts
Total Points Double Points Triple Points Quadruple Points
84.23
79.44
63.33
57.55
54.12
49.19
48.58
47.73
47.59
46.69
41.06
38.85
36.27
34.44
33.45
33.07
27.67
27.15
23.96
23.49
18.70
18.32
16.96
16.72
14.52
10.95
33.45
50.17
66.90
8.36
8.36
8.36
5.17
4.41
3.19
1.97
12.54
12.54
12.54
7.75
6.62
4.79
2.96
16.72
16.72
16.72
10.34
8.83
6.39
3.95
10.80
10.19
9.96
4.18
4.18
4.18
2.58
2.21
1.60
0.99